Justice Seekers Podcast
Two attorneys go beyond the headlines to shine a light on stories that hide, exposing the bones of legal cases left to molder in our hallowed halls of justice.
We find the claims that didn't make the news and the facts that didn't make the record—the questions that didn't reach the bench and the answers that didn't come from it—the voices of truth that never got their chance to be heard.
Join us, friends, as we venture into the underworld of long forgotten lawfare and learn how verdicts are really handed down.
Episodes
29 episodes
Episode 29: Silence in the Halls, Part I: Too Late for Justice
In 1969, Sister Cathy Cesnik vanished, only to be found murdered weeks later. What began as a cold case would eventually unravel into something far more disturbing.In Part I of this two-part series, Justice Seekers exami...
Episode 28: Retrials, Reckonings, and Responsibility: When the Justice System Hits Reset What happens when a conviction is overturned—not because the crime didn’t happen, but because the trial wasn’t fair?
In this episode of Justice Seekers, Katrina and Natalie break down three major legal stories that show the justice system under real pressure. We start with the Harvey Weinstein retrial and explain why appellate courts drew the line on...
Episode 27: Sixty-Five Seconds: When Absence Becomes Evidence (the Nick and Heidi Firkus case)
In this episode of Justice Seekers, we examine the tragic story of the murder of Heidi Firkus, killed in her St. Paul home in 2010 - and the case against her husband, Nick Firkus, built almost entirely on circumstantial evi...
Episode 26 Once Upon a Trial: The Kouri Richins Case
Poisoning cases are meant to pass as fate.No struggle. No witnesses. No clear moment where everything breaks - just a death that looks ordinary until the system slows down and starts asking harder questions.Now that a jury has convi...
Episode 25:When the System Blinks: Epstein, Power, and Legal Failure
A deep dive into the legal history of Jeffrey Epstein, examining the 2008 plea deal, DOJ discretion, victims’ rights violations, and the systemic failures that allowed abuse to continue. This episode explores how power, influence, a...
Episode 24: Approved Harm: Environmental Justice, Mapping Risk, and the Cost of “Neutral” Policy
In a flat city, a hill appeared - and it wasn’t natural.What followed wasn’t a cover‑up or a villain - just quiet permission, baked into a system that didn’t need to lie to do damage.In this episode of Justice Seekers, we break ...
Episode 23: The Radium Girls: The Case That Exposed Corporate Lies and Changed Workplace Law
In the early 1900s, young women working in American factories were told a glowing substance called radium was safe and even beneficial. It lit up watch dials, boosted industrial progress, and symbolized the future.But behind that...
Episode 22 When Parents Are Prosecuted: The New Legal Theory of Criminal Liability
What happens when prosecutors charge parents for their child’s school shooting?In this episode of Justice Seekers, we break down the landmark Crumbley case, a recent Georgia murder conviction, and emerging ...
Episode 21: A Drop of Trust: The Legal Case Behind Theranos.
Theranos promised a revolution in blood testing: hundreds of lab results from a single drop of blood.The idea made Elizabeth Holmes one of Silicon Valley’s most celebrated founders and brought Theranos machines into Walg...
Episode 20: The Supreme Court and True Crime: Landmark Criminal Procedure Cases That Shape Your Encounters
In this episode of Justice Seekers, attorneys Natalie Stubbs and Katrina break down the constitutional rules behind some of the most important criminal procedure cases in American history. These decisions define what police can do, wha...
Episode 19: Sandra Birchmore Part 2
In this episode of Justice Seekers, attorneys Natalie and Katrina break down how civil litigation, independent forensic review, and federal civil rights law reopened an investigation many believed was finished and how procedural law ul...
Episode 18: Sandra Birchmore, Part 1
When 23-year-old Sandra Birchmore was found dead in her Massachusetts apartment, authorities quickly ruled her death a suicide.But Sandra was pregnant, making future plans, and deeply connected to several police officers she had known si...
Episode 17: Blood Will Tell: The Wrongful Conviction of Joe Bryan
A small Texas town. A brutal murder. A husband with a solid alibi, and a conviction built on blood evidence that modern science now calls unreliable.In 1985, schoolteacher Mickey Bryan was found murdered in her home. Prosecutors ...
Episode 16: The Trial of the Century: O.J. Simpson, DNA on Trial, and the Power of Reasonable Doubt
In this episode of Justice Seekers, we revisit one of the most infamous criminal trials in American history: The People v. O.J. Simpson.What happens when overwhelming evidence collides with police misconduct, racial tension,...
Episode 15: From Homicide to Suicide: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?
In this episode of Justice Seekers, we examine the controversial death of 28-year-old teacher Ellen Greenberg — a case initially ruled a homicide, then quietly changed to suicide despite more than twenty stab wounds and troubling foren...
Episode 14: The Amber Alert
In this episode, attorneys Natalie and Katrina examine the 1996 abduction and murder of 9-year-old Amber Hagerman, the case that prompted the creation of the Amber Alert system and reshaped law enforcement response to child abduct...
Episode 13: The Execution of Cameron Todd Willingham
In 1991, a fire ripped through a small home in Corsicana, Texas, killing three young sisters. Their father, Cameron Todd Willingham, escaped; but within days, investigators accused him of deliberately setting the fire.In this epi...
Episode 12: The Disappearance of Laci Peterson: Media, Motive & The Making of a Monster?
On Christmas Eve 2002, 27-year-old Laci Peterson, eight months pregnant, vanished from her Modesto, California home. What began as a missing persons search spiraled into a national obsession, exposing infidelity, media mania, and one of the mos...
Episode 11: The Case That Changed Childhood: Jacob Wetterling and the Law of Innocence
In this episode of Justice Seekers, Katrina and Natalie journey back to small-town Minnesota in the late 1980s, where trust and freedom defined childhood -- until one tragic night shattered a community’s sense of safety. We'll explore th...
Episode 10: The Murder of Mary Rogers, The Beautiful Cigar Girl
Mary Rogers’ death inspired Edgar Allan Poe’s The Mystery of Marie Rogêt — but nearly two centuries later, the real mystery remains unsolved.In 1841, Mary Cecilia Rogers, a young New York cigar shop clerk known as ...
Episode 9: The Tragedy of JonBenét Ramsey
In this episode of Justice Seekers, hosted by two attorneys, we examine the mysterious case of JonBenét Ramsey, the six-year-old beauty pageant star found dead in her Boulder, Colorado home in 1996. We explore the investi...
Episode 8: Gabby Petito: Turning Grief Into Change
Gabby Petito’s story captured the nation, but her parents made sure it led to action. In this episode, we examine Gabby’s tragic death and the powerful advocacy led by her parents, Nichole Schmidt and Joe Petito, in her name.Thro...
Episode 7: The Karen Read Case
In this episode, Natalie and Katrina break down the controversial case of Karen Read, accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, during a 2022 snowstorm. What first appeared to be a tragic accident spiraled into alleg...
Episode 6: The Yogurt Shop Murders: 34 Years Later, the Truth Emerges
In 1991, four teenage girls were murdered inside an Austin yogurt shop, a case that shocked Texas and led to wrongful convictions, overturned years later by DNA evidence. Now, in 2025, investigators have finally identified the real killer: R...
Episode 5: The Delphi Murders: Justice, Science, and the Shadows of Doubt
In this episode, Natalie and Katrina explore the Delphi murders and how forensic science shaped the case against Richard Allen. They break down the limits of firearm and toolmark analysis, why “ballistics matches” aren’t always scientifically c...